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Post by HighRoller on Oct 16, 2006 8:55:51 GMT -6
2FAST4U, I, for one appreciate the willingness of all the guys on this board to share the wealth of knowledge and experience with anybody and everybody. In my profession, and I'm sure in many others, people rely on this process of learning from others all the time. Why reinvent the wheel? I know for a fact that short track drivers/owners do this in their racing all the time. They talk and share ideas constantly. I don't have the tools necessary to make wheels to compete in the racing leagues. If I chose to compete and want to buy wheels from someone so be it. Wooden Shoe I think you missed the point Woodenshoe1. That is what 2fast and others are trying to say is that it is ok to buy wheels to put on your car. if someone choses, so be it. |
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Post by Wooden Shoe1 on Oct 16, 2006 9:10:54 GMT -6
HighRoller,
I was just agreeing with 2FAST4U. I'm all for sharing info and parts.
Wooden Shoe
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Post by cheelwheels on Oct 16, 2006 9:31:35 GMT -6
Hi guys. Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in here. The wheels in my name does not stand for race wheels. It stands for wheelchaur wheels,you see I am a posty polio guy who is also lsing the ability to work with my hands. I used to bui,d these cars with my sons when they were in cubs. I want to build them again but find it very difficult to work weith my hands again like I used to. I know there are others like me or even in worse shape than I that can't build the cars completely. If I have to puchase anything to race in any one of these leagues be it PDDR or WIRL I will do it and not feel bad about it. If it were not for some of you guys on these boards tthat have encoutraged me to build I would be crawling in a shell about now.
GO WHEELER. Love, CHEELWHEELS
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Post by Cam-Car Racing on Oct 16, 2006 9:42:50 GMT -6
I need to say, HyperDrive, that I think your logic is somewhat ridiculous; cut down our own trees, pouring the molds, etc.
We all have a common beginning point: a block of wood, 4 wheels and axles, some weight and paint. From there it is ok to read books, get advice, ask questions, etc. But we don't ask these sources of information to build our car for us. (At least we shouldn't)
I'm not trying to take sides here, but I do see Fidin's point of view. I think the real master builder is the guy who can take the above mentioned components, the knowledge he is able to aquire, and the skill he posses, and build a competitive car that is 100 percent his own.
I don't have any gripe with people who would rather purchase other's wheels. That is their choice. But don't knock a guy who happens to think that it is more commendable when someone can totally build their own car.
I may be stepping on a few toes, but that's my story and I'm stickin to it.
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Post by dsracing on Oct 16, 2006 9:47:17 GMT -6
I need to chime in here. I bought my wheels but I didn't stop there. I then looked at them to see if there was anything I could improve upon and modified the wheels I bought. I'm glad I didn't have to start from square one to come up with "smokin" wheels. Both stock and mod on my cars aren't as they came originally.
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Post by Cam-Car Racing on Oct 16, 2006 10:05:29 GMT -6
In re-reading my post, HyperDrive I apologize for using the word "ridiculous". I just meant that I don't agree with your logic. Sorry about that.
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Post by BAM Racing on Oct 16, 2006 11:34:28 GMT -6
Agree, don't agree...Whatever!  I don't think that WIRL or PDDR was created ONLY for the purist builder, and there is nothing in the rules prohibiting the practice of using aftermarket wheels on cars entered in either organizations race.  He who crosses the finish line first wins. That is, in my mind, the master builder... Agree do disagree and move on...  |
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Post by 2FAST4U on Oct 16, 2006 11:54:12 GMT -6
Agree, don't agree...Whatever! I don't think that WIRL or PDDR was created ONLY for the purist builder, and there is nothing in the rules prohibiting the practice of using aftermarket wheels on cars entered in either organizations race. He who crosses the finish line first wins. That is, in my mind, the master builder... Agree do disagree and move on...
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Head in the Pine
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Post by HyperDrive on Oct 16, 2006 15:22:33 GMT -6
In re-reading my post, HyperDrive I apologize for using the word "ridiculous". I just meant that I don't agree with your logic. Sorry about that. That's Cool, As long as I have top notch racers like 2FAST4U and A1nogoslo on my side I know my opinions are headed in the right direction. Hyperdrive |
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Post by Cam-Car Racing on Oct 16, 2006 16:00:59 GMT -6
I have associated with Glenn, David, and their father and they are great guys, and true master car builders. They are on your side for sure, but keep in mind they are also in the business of selling wheels. I know that their wheels are as good or better than any made out there, and I am not in any way trying to hurt their business. I may even buy some of their wheels some day, but first I would like to try and see how far I can go on my own.
Car building and racing is fun, and I hope there are no hard feelings if we don't agree on every issue.
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Post by octom on Oct 20, 2006 10:35:08 GMT -6
Darn.......... I just had a simple question. Didn't mean to set off such an impassioned discussion. I still have one unanswered question though, where can I purchase bulk unaltered wheels?  Thanks |
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Post by Lucky 13 on Oct 20, 2006 10:51:57 GMT -6
You can contact the BSA National Distribution Center at 1-800-323-0736. Hope this helps you out.
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Post by j2ce on Oct 20, 2006 12:04:22 GMT -6
OCTOM,
I guess that's what you get for asking simple questions (ha, ha, ha). But from what i've read for the last few month on this site. This ain't Derby Talk for sure. And from the boards I've read these gents are out to have fun building, helping, competing and RACING these fabulous little wood cars.
j2ce
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Post by Knothead Racing on Feb 13, 2007 18:16:40 GMT -6
I'm looking for a little help.
Going back to the original question, if I may?
What type of workholding are you using to bore the wheel I.D.
5C collet? 16C? soft jaws or something else?
I'm trying to use a three jaw chuck and I'm deforming the I.D. even with light pressure. (holding on the O.D.) I've tried the arbor / mandrel and as soon as the tool bit touches the wheel the concentricity goes out. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post by parrish on Feb 14, 2007 9:30:42 GMT -6
What type of mandrel are you using? The Pro Mandrel by Derby Worx utilizes a cone on the screw which centers the hub to the axis of the lathe, and helps keep the wheel concentric during machniing.
Try taking little bites at a time (.001-.003").
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Post by Knothead Racing on Feb 15, 2007 4:54:07 GMT -6
Thanks, I've ordered two more screws and I'll try it again. patience..... patience......patience
Do you lock the wheel up first and then square the back (lettering) up against the chuck?
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Post by cheese boy racing on Feb 15, 2007 20:23:46 GMT -6
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Post by PL DERBY Dad on Feb 23, 2007 22:26:12 GMT -6
I made a press fit mandrel.
I turned down a .5" OD piece of aluminum so it will press fit into the axle bore. This keeps the wheel as concentric as you can get it. (as far as I know) I messed-up a few wheels before I figured out how to get clean cuts on the inside of the wheel...
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I don't think that WIRL or PDDR was created ONLY for the purist builder, and there is nothing in the rules prohibiting the practice of using aftermarket wheels on cars entered in either organizations race. 
