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Post by 5kidsracing on Dec 4, 2007 23:08:54 GMT -6
Hi everyone I'm new here. My son (8 yrs old ) and I built our first PWD car last year. We won the pack and took 4th at district. He is the oldest of 5 kids. Between cub scouts and AWANAS I will being building a lot of cars in the next few years. We are also going to start racing WIRL.
My question is. Has anyone tried using Tungsten Disulfide as a lube. Is it better than graphite? I see people selling it on ebay. Is it worth the money. I found a supplier were I can buy it in bulk. I may look at buying some package and resell it.
Thanks, Brian
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Post by Lucky 13 on Dec 4, 2007 23:29:12 GMT -6
Hi everyone I'm new here. My son (8 yrs old ) and I built our first PWD car last year. We won the pack and took 4th at district. He is the oldest of 5 kids. Between cub scouts and AWANAS I will being building a lot of cars in the next few years. We are also going to start racing WIRL. My question is. Has anyone tried using Tungsten Disulfide as a lube. Is it better than graphite? I see people selling it on ebay. Is it worth the money. I found a supplier were I can buy it in bulk. I may look at buying some package and resell it. Thanks, Brian Welcome to the DerbyWorx forum Brian !! A few racers here have tested the Tungsten Disulfide with less then stellar results. Don't waste your money on it !! Stick with good old HOB-E-LUBE !! Lucky 13
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Post by docb on Dec 5, 2007 7:00:46 GMT -6
I would second that....Don't waste your time or money.
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Post by ProQuest on Dec 5, 2007 17:35:42 GMT -6
Hey Brian:
Welcome. My favorite brother (only brother) is named "Brian." I'll third Lucky and docb about tungsten disulfide. For dry lubes you can't go wrong with Hob-E-Lube. Some of the fastest cars around are using it. Some builders feel that certain oils are faster than any graphite, but oils are tricky to use and too much or too little and you're fried. With Hob-E-Lube it is hard mess up.
Send in a car of two. Good luck.
ProQuest/Steve H.
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Post by 5kidsracing on Dec 5, 2007 20:37:26 GMT -6
Thanks Guys! I appreciate the info. We used Hob-e-lube last and had good results. so I'll stick with it. I'll use the $ I saved to put towards the new scoll saw.
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Post by Go Bubba Go on Dec 6, 2007 8:33:47 GMT -6
Hi everyone I'm new here. My son (8 yrs old ) and I built our first PWD car last year. We won the pack and took 4th at district. He is the oldest of 5 kids. Between cub scouts and AWANAS I will being building a lot of cars in the next few years. We are also going to start racing WIRL. My question is. Has anyone tried using Tungsten Disulfide as a lube. Is it better than graphite? I see people selling it on ebay. Is it worth the money. I found a supplier were I can buy it in bulk. I may look at buying some package and resell it. Thanks, Brian Welcome Brian. We also have 5 kids, although our oldest is now 12 (time flies...). We don't run Awanas, but for the last 2 years we've made a car for all the kids (the boys do most of their own these days), myself and the wife, grandpa and grandma (and a couple "novelty gift" cars) for our Open Class. Practice, practice, practice... Anyway, skip the WS2. MaxV did an article a while back (couldn't find it quickly or I would link it) on WS2 and I believe the results were that for Pinewood Derby applications, it was inferior to graphite. Everything I've seen from the other builders says the same. Bubba p.s. Looking forward to some pictures of your fleet
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Post by Parrot Racing on Dec 6, 2007 9:17:52 GMT -6
Welcome Brian. I have tried the tungsten disulfide, overpaid for it on ebay. Not only was it not good, it was the worst of all the dry lubes I have tried, and I think I have tried them all. Save your money, pick up a tube of hob-e-lube or a graphite/moly blend from one of the suppliers who post here, they are all quality products from my experience.
Enrico-Parrot Racing
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Post by JustaDad on Feb 7, 2008 14:30:04 GMT -6
Why didn't I find this site sooner. I spent the money but when race time came I couldn't find the WS2 so I went with graphite and my sone took 1st in class and 3rd overall.
I guess I cold use it a weight? lol
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Post by ff1062 on Oct 20, 2020 14:37:52 GMT -6
I couldn't believe it when I read the replies to this post. Tungsten disulfide works. We used it last year to take 1st place in our pack race. The problem is: people don't know how to use tungsten disulfide, so they use it the wrong way, then say it gave them poor results. Tungsten disulfide is not graphite, you cannot apply it in the same manner. Tungsten disulfide needs to be bonded to a surface for it to work as a lubricant. First, we got all of the imperfections out of our axles by straightening and polishing them, then we placed our axles in an old pill bottle along with a few (maybe 20) BBs and a small scoop of tungsten disulfide. We centered the pill bottle in the barrel of my son's rock tumbler by wrapping it in rags, then ran the rock tumbler overnight. In the morning the axles were coated with a translucent gray film that would not come off. Before the race, we lubricated our axles with Max-V graphite. The graphite served as our primary lubricant through most of the races, but when the graphite wore down to almost nothing on everyone's axles, we still had the tungsten disulfide to keep our car going fast. In fact, our car continued to get faster as the races progressed.
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