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Post by RacerX on Jan 4, 2011 9:34:52 GMT -6
We got a request for wheels that were NOT MATCHED today.
The rules this group had were that the wheels are inspected for mold matching and if they were of the same numbers i guess they cannot race.
Here is the piece from the rules:
"Any type of washers, bearings, or bushings is prohibited on wheels or axles. Burrs may be removed from axles and axles may be polished. A one piece axle is not permitted. The car shall not ride on any type of springs. The Wheels MUST NOT have ALL THE SAME mold numbers"
Anyone else ever hear of this?
Racer X
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Post by MaxV on Jan 5, 2011 7:59:08 GMT -6
I have had several requests for mismatched wheels. Generally it is because they don't want the wheels to appear to be bought (since most purchased sets are matched). But in a few cases there was rule like the one you indicate.
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Post by Lucky 13 on Jan 5, 2011 22:39:19 GMT -6
So if you bought a kit or tube of replacement wheels and they had 2-3 of the same mold number wheels in them, you would end up being accused of breaking the rules ? That's ridiculous. I've opened many BSA kits that had 2 of the same mold #. I've even had 1 replacement wheel tube that had 3 of the same. Just seems like another overboard rule to me, put in place by someone who really doesn't have a clue !! Lucky 13
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Post by brian770 on Jan 9, 2011 8:43:28 GMT -6
wow, that almost sounds like the Shawnie Trails counsel..... and I thought we had bad rules
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Post by Murph on Jan 9, 2011 22:59:37 GMT -6
Gosh, I am a leader and write rules/run races for district and council. I would never get that anal....... Some councils like to show Scouts the disciplines of following rules. I guess that is why we see stuff like this. Murph
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Post by RacerX on Jan 10, 2011 9:46:47 GMT -6
Murph, I think a lot of rules get written out of lack of knowledge.
I am really afraid that some of these pack rules are getting written so tight that is is scaring some family's off from even doing PWD and that's not cool. I know that we all have pushed the boundries of racing a bit with tools, techniques and parts, but regardless of how the rules are written, the people who do their work are going to win, so why not keep it simple so everyone can race and have fun with the rules being easy to adhere to and tech.
What does everyone think?
Racer X
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Post by Art Racing on Jan 10, 2011 11:06:10 GMT -6
I agree some of the rules have gotten ridiculous.
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Post by brian770 on Jan 11, 2011 16:09:43 GMT -6
I agree, the "top" Scout executive of our counsel said this,"all cars have rules in the box" I realy dont think this guy was ever a scout....
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Post by renner on Feb 25, 2012 6:13:32 GMT -6
I agree, the "top" Scout executive of our counsel said this,"all cars have rules in the box" I realy dont think this guy was ever a scout.... Actually, in our pack they open up each box to insert the pack rules before giving the kits to the scouts.
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Post by renner on Feb 25, 2012 6:40:44 GMT -6
Murph, I think a lot of rules get written out of lack of knowledge. I am really afraid that some of these pack rules are getting written so tight that is is scaring some family's off from even doing PWD and that's not cool. I know that we all have pushed the boundries of racing a bit with tools, techniques and parts, but regardless of how the rules are written, the people who do their work are going to win, so why not keep it simple so everyone can race and have fun with the rules being easy to adhere to and tech. What does everyone think? Racer X I believe the intent of the rules in our pack are that the average scout can build a competitive car at home from what comes in the kit. They don't want it where you have to have access to expensive lathes or buy expensive machined wheels and axles(no offense to the great Derbyworx stuff you have). But if a smart kid wants to do his research and takes his time with alignment, weight placement, etc. just from what he learned on a forum like this, he can give most any dad a run for his money. If a kid, with or without parental help, tries to enter an honest car that is a tad overweight or doesn't quite fit the templates, we would do everything we could to help him fix it to pass tech. But an extended wheelbase with machined, matched wheels? Really? That's not a mistake due to lack of ability. I personally think kids get scared off from entering when they know there's some dad spending a lot of money to build a car for their kid that blows everyone else away.
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