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Post by colopwdfan on Apr 10, 2006 18:30:52 GMT -6
Hi there!
Great site where the suppliers and experienced hang out and share!
I am thinking of an idea that I think would be legal or call for an additional change to "by the book" rules.
Coning the wheel hub is against the rules. Is it possible to cone the wood where the axle enters? I realize there would be strength issues. But if we could come up with ideas...
What's the verdict? Ideas?
Thanks and glad to find this site as well as Max, Pine Pro, and a few other vendors I've done biz with. BTW Tool Worx stuff are GREAT.
John Row
colopwdfan
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Post by JOKER on Apr 10, 2006 18:34:24 GMT -6
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT WIRL OR BSA USAGE?
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Post by colopwdfan on Apr 10, 2006 18:35:42 GMT -6
BSAjohn
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Post by Smokinjoesracing on Apr 10, 2006 18:39:30 GMT -6
I rounded the body near the axle holes. We have a very strict council race and it passed no problem. Call whoever runs the race you will be in and bombard them with Q's. Tell them you want to make sure you are in compliance. At the race introduce yourself to them. Let them know you have nothing to hide. Then let your kid stick the RC controll pinecar on the track and watch it burnout. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by colopwdfan on Apr 10, 2006 18:41:08 GMT -6
Hi smokin,
hints or suggestions on what to try or know to avoid
John
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Post by Smokinjoesracing on Apr 10, 2006 18:48:33 GMT -6
Make sure the portion of wood holding your axle is at least 3/8ths of an inch wide. Be very carefull as you remove axles. You should be OK. Click on the website in my signature and check out some of our cars for an idea of what I am talking about.
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Post by JOKER on Apr 10, 2006 18:49:23 GMT -6
SO THEN WE CAN GATHER THAT CONING WHEELS HUBS IS AGAINST THE RULES IN YOUR PACK, DICTRICT OR COUNCIL RACE............CONING THE WOOD WHERE THE AXLE ENTERS THE BODY WOULD INHIBIT WHEEL ROTATION IF THIS AREA WERE SMALLER THAN YOUR WHEEL BORES.....AVOID DOING THAT. REDUCING THIS AREA IS GOOD IF YOU KEEP THIS PART OF THE BODY FROM ENTERING INTO THE WHEEL BORE. THE KEY IS ELIMINATING THE AREAS OF THE BODY THAT WILL RUB ON THE WHEEL BORE AND THE INNER WHEEL SURFACE - THE LESS CONTACT - THE LESS FRICTION. REFER TO A CAR CALLED COLD FUSION BUILT BY JEWKES ENGINEERING, WARP'S HAMMERHEAD, OR SMOKIN' JOES CARS FOR EXAMPLES OF BODY DESIGNS THAT ELIMINATE A GREAT DEAL OF BODY CONTACT WITH THE WHEELS. BE CAREFUL - BECAUSE THE SMALLER YOU GO - THE MORE THE CONCERN WILL BE WITH STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.
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Post by colopwdfan on Apr 10, 2006 18:50:27 GMT -6
PS my wife is the my son's Tiger Denmom  So compliance is important for that reason and the obvious sportsmanship, tool use, Father/Son working together reasons. BTW Our troop has a father/son cake bake and decorate every year and my son Ben and I finished with best tasting last year and best looking AND best tasting this year. I think some of it was sympathy votes though. One of the little guys accidentally SAT on the lower third before judging - ours was "The Electrical Christmas Tree" cake that when plugged in would have lit up (I was afraid to plug it in after the mishap tho) LOL John |
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Post by colopwdfan on Apr 10, 2006 18:53:43 GMT -6
Hi Joker!
Good points
I would use a lot of care and discretion as you mention.
Thanks for the input
Going to stop for dinner Thanks all
John
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Post by patmanruls on Apr 10, 2006 20:32:16 GMT -6
Hi there! Great site where the suppliers and experienced hang out and share! I am thinking of an idea that I think would be legal or call for an additional change to "by the book" rules. Coning the wheel hub is against the rules. Is it possible to cone the wood where the axle enters? I realize there would be strength issues. But if we could come up with ideas... What's the verdict? Ideas? Thanks and glad to find this site as well as Max, Pine Pro, and a few other vendors I've done biz with. BTW Tool Worx stuff are GREAT. John Row colopwdfan Try this... build an ever-so-slight mound around each axle with epoxy. you can put a lubricant on the axle so after the epoxy sets, you can pull it out. then sand and shape the epoxy any shape you want it.. it will be hard and coned... |
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Post by builderjim on Apr 10, 2006 20:46:40 GMT -6
BTW Our troop has a father/son cake bake and decorate every year and my son Ben and I finished with best tasting last year and best looking AND best tasting this year. I think some of it was sympathy votes though. One of the little guys accidentally SAT on the lower third before judging - ours was "The Electrical Christmas Tree" cake that when plugged in would have lit up (I was afraid to plug it in after the mishap tho) LOL John ummm, i would not have eaten the cake if i were you. the electrical cord for the christmas light is toxic and could have ill effects on your or anyone's health. Not only that it is not declared food safe by the FDA. My wife is/was a cake decorator and she would not have used anything that would not be food safe for fear of making someone else sick. Kinda late now to have told you this but just try to remember that the next time you make a cake or something edible. Jim |
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Post by JOKER on Apr 11, 2006 2:43:04 GMT -6
ONE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO PUT A DREMEL STONE WITH A HOLLOW END IN THE DRILL PRESS. YOU COULD PUT A SLIGHT INDENTATION INTO THE BODY WITH THE AXLE HOLES CENTERED IN THE MIDDLE. THIS WOULD REDUCE SURFACE CONTACT WITH THE WHEEL HUB AND NOT GIVE UP STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. IT ALSO WOULD NOT CREATE AN AREA SMALL ENOUGH TO BE COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE. THIS COULD BE PERFORMED RIGHT AFTER DRILLING THE AXLE HOLES.
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Post by colopwdfan on Apr 11, 2006 7:29:11 GMT -6
Thanks guys,
Builderjim, I guess you would have to see the design but all non edible stuff was on the back of the cake board(ie - not in contact with either food or surfaces food was or would touch. I'm very careful before implementing stuff like that since I've been food contaminated myself before. Like I said, you would have to have seen it and my description wasn't very detailed. Sorry. So there wasn't any chance to comingle edible and non.
It sounds like the coned body hub areas has been given some thought before and I appreciate the input!
Take care!
John
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